Many of use don't know what to believe this is true. You need to do alot of your own research lookingvat both sides of a story to begin to find a glimmer of truth. One fact to know is that the people who died on Jan 6th were protesters, one shot by Capitol police, Ashley Babitt another woman was crushed by the crowd and several suffered heart attacks. The police officer lamented as killed by protesters died a day after of a heart attack.
Put Nihilism together with Nietzsche’s Eternal Return (everything returns exactly the same way with no differences whatsoever into eternity) and we are all fucked, forever.
It seems pretty clear. The BLM protests were just that, protests. J6 was an attempt to actually overthrow the government, to prevent the elected President from taking office. Whatever the evidence against anyone individual, that was the overall purpose -- and if that’s not sedition, what is it?
I appreciate your rationality regarding being uncertain of things. I try to do this too, and it’s even more troubling than believing what I want to believe. I think that’s why people don’t do it more often. Also the hyperlinks were a nice touch.
What astounded me then and continues to do so is how few people actually died in that insurrection. The federal, state, and local police did not open fire on rioters, did not exert enormous pressure using weapons, and unlike other recent times, did not work hard to control the situation. Imagine if the mob of criminals had been mostly in support of Black Lives Matter; there would have been more bodies and blood I think.
The truth of this comment is illustrated by the anticipatory reaction in DC. There's the now iconic photo of a line of national guard troops on...I wanna the steps of the Lincoln Memorial during summer 2020. You know, just in case. That's to say nothing of the gassing of BLM protestors just so a thin-haired charlatan could hold up an upside down bible in front of a church.
One of these things is not like the other. J6 was a white mans treasonous attempted overthrow by fools and idiots. Their intent was to overthrow and destroy the lawfully elected government. BLM leaders got corrupted by the $$$$. The supporters just want not to be killed. Very differing reasons for these events. And the J6 violence was not a protest.
Pretty bleak viewpoint, but I think I get it. However, you have to know what you believe justice is, and I think you have to call for it and against injustice wherever you see it.
Regardless of issues with the BLM movement, the cause as I see it (pointing out horrendously unequal treatment under the law) was, no question, not equivalent to the J6 bullshit. On its surface, J6 was based on a baldfaced lie that was rejected over 60 times in court. At its root it was fomented by chaos agents (Trump, Bannon, Stone, Jones and their cabal of cosplay militias) determined to undermine democratic processes to further self-interests of money and power.
I do believe there were unwitting jamokes who were caught up in J6 that I have some sympathy for despite believing their support for Trump is dead wrong. And I also believe there were bad actors in the BLM movement and protests. Those things can be true at the same time I defend the BLM movement ideal and reject anything or anyone that defends Trump and J6.
And retain hope that justice in these matters will prevail over time.
Maintaining healthy skepticism is a core defense. Each side plays their narrative, convincing, persuading, and lying. Finding different sources (like substack!) and exploring thinking brains like yours builds a bulwark against bulls***.
Many of use don't know what to believe this is true. You need to do alot of your own research lookingvat both sides of a story to begin to find a glimmer of truth. One fact to know is that the people who died on Jan 6th were protesters, one shot by Capitol police, Ashley Babitt another woman was crushed by the crowd and several suffered heart attacks. The police officer lamented as killed by protesters died a day after of a heart attack.
I would stick to the comedy, Michael. A little too uninformed on these issues...
Put Nihilism together with Nietzsche’s Eternal Return (everything returns exactly the same way with no differences whatsoever into eternity) and we are all fucked, forever.
It seems pretty clear. The BLM protests were just that, protests. J6 was an attempt to actually overthrow the government, to prevent the elected President from taking office. Whatever the evidence against anyone individual, that was the overall purpose -- and if that’s not sedition, what is it?
I appreciate your rationality regarding being uncertain of things. I try to do this too, and it’s even more troubling than believing what I want to believe. I think that’s why people don’t do it more often. Also the hyperlinks were a nice touch.
What astounded me then and continues to do so is how few people actually died in that insurrection. The federal, state, and local police did not open fire on rioters, did not exert enormous pressure using weapons, and unlike other recent times, did not work hard to control the situation. Imagine if the mob of criminals had been mostly in support of Black Lives Matter; there would have been more bodies and blood I think.
The truth of this comment is illustrated by the anticipatory reaction in DC. There's the now iconic photo of a line of national guard troops on...I wanna the steps of the Lincoln Memorial during summer 2020. You know, just in case. That's to say nothing of the gassing of BLM protestors just so a thin-haired charlatan could hold up an upside down bible in front of a church.
One of these things is not like the other. J6 was a white mans treasonous attempted overthrow by fools and idiots. Their intent was to overthrow and destroy the lawfully elected government. BLM leaders got corrupted by the $$$$. The supporters just want not to be killed. Very differing reasons for these events. And the J6 violence was not a protest.
I thought the penalty for high treason was death, not 22 years. Not enough.
Nobody was charged with treason.
Nonetheless, it was treason.
It was Enrique Tarrio, the ex-leader of the Proud Boys who was sentenced yesterday to 22 years in prison - not Enrique Torres.
Oops. Thank you.
Pretty bleak viewpoint, but I think I get it. However, you have to know what you believe justice is, and I think you have to call for it and against injustice wherever you see it.
Regardless of issues with the BLM movement, the cause as I see it (pointing out horrendously unequal treatment under the law) was, no question, not equivalent to the J6 bullshit. On its surface, J6 was based on a baldfaced lie that was rejected over 60 times in court. At its root it was fomented by chaos agents (Trump, Bannon, Stone, Jones and their cabal of cosplay militias) determined to undermine democratic processes to further self-interests of money and power.
I do believe there were unwitting jamokes who were caught up in J6 that I have some sympathy for despite believing their support for Trump is dead wrong. And I also believe there were bad actors in the BLM movement and protests. Those things can be true at the same time I defend the BLM movement ideal and reject anything or anyone that defends Trump and J6.
And retain hope that justice in these matters will prevail over time.
Maintaining healthy skepticism is a core defense. Each side plays their narrative, convincing, persuading, and lying. Finding different sources (like substack!) and exploring thinking brains like yours builds a bulwark against bulls***.
Interesting perspective and well documented if only your thoughts could reach a wider audience. Thank you