I wonder why ‘progressives’ call for ceasefire knowing that Hamas will continue its totalitarian regime in Gaza, which turned Gaza into an open-air jail, knowing that Hamas will continue launching massacres of Israeli civilians, knowing that it’ll continue to halt any peace negotiations like it’s done since those started in 1993. Is it ‘progressives’ being aligned with Hamas on genocide of Jews in Israel being a good outcome, or is it digging their heels on being delusional? From the mouth of Hamas:
You’re wrong about Israel. They left Gaza years ago and what happened it became a terror training camp. Stop blaming Israel for defending itself. The Arabs need to step up and take care of the Palestinians but they won’t because they don’t care. They only want war and the destruction of the Jews.
Israel is the only country in the middle east that does anything for the Palestinians. Why is it none of you hold the Arabs accountable?? They do nothing for the Palestinians. Hamas picked the fight now they’re going to get a bloody nose.
Extensive MSM and online media, coverage from multiple English speaking print, TV, radio, and online, there was no glee in the days following the Hamas attack. Any interpretation of glee would be clutching at reasons to claim victimhood, stemming from a personal need, not objective measures.
By contrast, the dehumanization of Palestinians has increased throughout the month, in all MSM.
Great perspective! Thank you. We don’t have to choose sides as you’ve put it so well. But what drives me nuts is the histrionic reaction on either side from those who have nothing to do with this. Whether it’s the right or left.
Thank you for excavating your feelings! I relate to all of this. I too have been wanting to write about all my complicated feelings about it but something is holding me back.
I’d co-sign what you said here, Michael. Nothing is right to say, other than I feel sad for everyone. I get the Israeli action for the music festival massacre. That was earned blowback. A march into occupying the orphaned land of the Gaza Strip just helps nobody. But there’s no end until WW3 catastrophe there.
We’re not going to see peace anytime soon. And that sucks.
A ceasefire will be the opportunity Hamas needs to regroup and plan another massacre, and at the same time continue to enforce an Islamist totalitarian regime on Gaza civilians. The peace process can be reset after Hamas has its terror capability smashed, not before. Calls for ceasefire is all a progressive brain rotted with decades of pro Palestinian propaganda can come up with. That urge to imagine Hamas doesn’t exist is delusional.
I wonder why ‘progressives’ call for ceasefire knowing that Hamas will continue its totalitarian regime in Gaza, which turned Gaza into an open-air jail, knowing that Hamas will continue launching massacres of Israeli civilians, knowing that it’ll continue to halt any peace negotiations like it’s done since those started in 1993. Is it ‘progressives’ being aligned with Hamas on genocide of Jews in Israel being a good outcome, or is it digging their heels on being delusional? From the mouth of Hamas:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-official-says-group-will-repeat-oct-7-attack-twice-and-three-times-to-destroy-israel/
I also feel much the same as you. We are saddened.
Thank you, Michael, for articulating the messy thoughts and feelings that go with this tragedy, and for sharing them publicly. I feel much the same.
You’re wrong about Israel. They left Gaza years ago and what happened it became a terror training camp. Stop blaming Israel for defending itself. The Arabs need to step up and take care of the Palestinians but they won’t because they don’t care. They only want war and the destruction of the Jews.
Israel is the only country in the middle east that does anything for the Palestinians. Why is it none of you hold the Arabs accountable?? They do nothing for the Palestinians. Hamas picked the fight now they’re going to get a bloody nose.
In which world did everyone respond with glee? Not the world that I live in. There was no glee to be found.
You must live under a rock.. turn on your laptop.
Extensive MSM and online media, coverage from multiple English speaking print, TV, radio, and online, there was no glee in the days following the Hamas attack. Any interpretation of glee would be clutching at reasons to claim victimhood, stemming from a personal need, not objective measures.
By contrast, the dehumanization of Palestinians has increased throughout the month, in all MSM.
Great perspective! Thank you. We don’t have to choose sides as you’ve put it so well. But what drives me nuts is the histrionic reaction on either side from those who have nothing to do with this. Whether it’s the right or left.
There’s no chance another Holocaust could happen, oh wait, it could.
I live in Jerusalem and I agree. It’s a shitshow. Israel shouldn’t be here, but it is. Israel shouldn’t HAVE to be here, but it does.
Thanks for your words.
You are never half baked or whinging. Thank you.
Thank you for excavating your feelings! I relate to all of this. I too have been wanting to write about all my complicated feelings about it but something is holding me back.
I get that. It's hard to write about.
I’d co-sign what you said here, Michael. Nothing is right to say, other than I feel sad for everyone. I get the Israeli action for the music festival massacre. That was earned blowback. A march into occupying the orphaned land of the Gaza Strip just helps nobody. But there’s no end until WW3 catastrophe there.
We’re not going to see peace anytime soon. And that sucks.
1,300 Jews killed by Hamas Terrorists.
Now 8000 Palestinians killed.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-10-29-2023-de1a7d660ba2f6d80b3d7aeaae5bb0f3
That's not "eye for an eye".
That's genocide.
Let me guess...
"They deserved it"
"Israel has a right to ethnic cleansing, military occupation, subjection as 2nd class citizens and economic blockade."
"Israel has a right to [do whatever it wants including genocide] to "protect itself""
WHY WON'T THOSE DIRTY TERRORISTS GO BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM
"Thou shalt not kill".
You guys are literally full of shit.😄
That's not including the 400 or so killed in the West Bank.
In the 20 years or so, prior to October, 10,000 Palestinians had been killed, compared with 100 or so Israelis.
Those proportions have been consistent over time. The data is available to anyone.
It has never been an eye for an eye. Revenge is never proportionate. Funded by the Western allies. Shame on everyone.
Thanks for this perspective. Do you think a ceasefire would be the start of peace?
A ceasefire will be the opportunity Hamas needs to regroup and plan another massacre, and at the same time continue to enforce an Islamist totalitarian regime on Gaza civilians. The peace process can be reset after Hamas has its terror capability smashed, not before. Calls for ceasefire is all a progressive brain rotted with decades of pro Palestinian propaganda can come up with. That urge to imagine Hamas doesn’t exist is delusional.
I have no idea.
I, too, cannot fathom a solution! My grandparents were sponsored into Canada to escape poverty in England. Not even close !